Christ is "the captain" of our Lifeboat, and we're always steering towards better, not bitter. But today's conversation highlights a variety of experiences, and some of those experiences certainly must grieve the Lord. SEVENTEEN women participated in the original conversation, but I've condensed it to make it easier to read. Although it might look like only two women are having this conversation, please keep in mind that this is the experience of many. And please add your constructive comments and experiences for all to learn from too---just click the word comment to open a response box. If you don't have a blog, use the Anonymous identity and remember to click the "Post" button.
♥ ferree
A widowed mother of young boys opened with this comment-- I've started feeling lately like we (me and my boys) have been forgotten by those in our church. No one other than my couple of close friends invites us for dinner, pool parties, offers to watch the boys for a while, mow the yard...
I'm so tired of needing to ask for every
kind of help. Part of it is my firstborn resistance to needing help, but the
other is just becoming resentful that we are on the hearts of no one. I've been
dealing with a pretty major conflict between me and a married couple in my
church. It occurred to me that there is no one with skin on to defend me, to
talk me down from the ledge (figuratively speaking ;).
And, no male in the 3 years since their dad has died has offered to spend time with my boys and followed through with it. This had to bum God out -it's really bumming me out.
Widow who also has boys-- I am so sorry that you are having to deal
and struggle with these situations. Like you, I am also concerned that my boys
don't have a Godly male role model that can come along beside them. Our church
is a very small congregation and my husband was the teen Sunday school
teacher. I don't have a strong support group in our church. I have family where
I live including my husbands but I don't like it that I have to keep calling
them myself to ask for help. And, no male in the 3 years since their dad has died has offered to spend time with my boys and followed through with it. This had to bum God out -it's really bumming me out.
I will be praying for you and specifically for the conflict with this couple at church, some more people to come beside you and help without you without having to ask every time. And for a Godly male to come beside your boys and be consistent.
Been there, done that, bought
the T shirt!! Know just where you are coming from with this. Hang in
there and take it to your Father who knows your every need, even when people are
being disobedient.
I'm so sorry that people, especially other men in the church, haven't stepped up to the plate to help with the boys and just for practical things you might need, too. It's a problem for many, many widows. I think people who haven't gone through this can't put themselves in our place and know what to do. So yes, we do have to be proactive and ask for the help we need. But in asking for help, I think that in itself can help educate people as to what we need, so that's a good thing. It does no good to anyone to suffer in silence.
So many churches just don't "get it" and I am at a loss to say
why.I'm so sorry that people, especially other men in the church, haven't stepped up to the plate to help with the boys and just for practical things you might need, too. It's a problem for many, many widows. I think people who haven't gone through this can't put themselves in our place and know what to do. So yes, we do have to be proactive and ask for the help we need. But in asking for help, I think that in itself can help educate people as to what we need, so that's a good thing. It does no good to anyone to suffer in silence.
Oh, I understand that too...bless your heart! Why is it so
hard for the ministry to really get it? are they just so wrapped up in their own
lives? are they intimidated by the idea of taking a boy/young man and teaching
him the ways of God? I have really been struggling with this too! I think
Discipleship is the key/answer---- if done in love and nurturing. Hang on to
that life preserver—our Lord Jesus Christ....we may not be able to do much else,
but cheering you on, and praying.
People in church seem to think
it's ok to say, “I just don't know what to say or do.” So they say or do nothing
and that makes it ok for
them.
Sadly, many of us understand your position. I
left my church 14 months after my husband passed away. I just couldn't live with
the constant rejection! And since I have been gone 4 months, I have yet to hear
from anybody as to where I have been. It's just a sad commentary about 'some'
churches, certainly not all! I will pray that God speaks to the hearts of a few
who will put up the mantle and help where it is needed!
What I am finding is that smaller churches don't have the
experience with young widows and fatherless children. It is a necessary ministry but
one that isn't a Top priority! Many churches have wonderful ministries for
widows and their children, it just takes time and commitment from 'someone' who
really gets it! Possibly a ministry for women like us who have walked the walked
and have a desire to help others do the same.!
I have not been to church for 6 weeks . For different reasons, but only 1 person has
messaged me and said she missed me. No one has called me, not even our pastor. I
try not to let this bother me. I don’t want to be the person who thinks the
church revolves around her, but an “I miss you” goes a long way. The church has
dropped the ball in this area and I don’t know why. I think about heading up
something in our church and maybe that’s what we need to do. But I still
struggle with getting close to people, even after 3 yrs. I wish I had the
answers but I don’t. Keep praying, that’s all i know.
Praying for divine intervention
and courage, as your church family deals with something they obviously know
little or nothing about. Be strong, and take all your cares to our Lord and Saviour at the foot of the cross.
((((HUGS)))) ♥
Its another struggle to
deal with that we don't need. I have 3 boys and they don't have that Godly male
role model. I do have 2 brothers who are good but they live out of town so we
don't see them that often. We are also in a small church and its tough. If I
don't go to church for a couple of weeks and I don't contact people myself, I
rarely hear from anyone. It’s sad. People don't understand us. I’ve started
going to a ladies group at a bigger church once a week and its encouraging and
I’ve made some new and amazing friends there. The kids are not keen to leave our
church. The Lord understands and cares.
I thank you, Lord, for the
blessing me with these new friends and a new ladies group for this other widow.
Amen!
I've had this problem too. My sons still
live with me. We haven't been invited by anyone in my church for any fellowship.
Plus the Father's Day message last Sunday, about mens’ (fathers’) need to mentor
others in our fellowship??? I always write down sermon notes, but during that sermon I wrote a letter to God, crying out
how my heart hurt that my sons really have NO MALE ROLE
MODEL.
You can't help but ask "why
did God take our husbands and leave us with our sons (and daughters) to bring up
alone?"
Yes!--"Why, God? Why?" My "type A"
personality children need two parents to raise them! . . . today has not
been the best.
My church was really wonderful,
loving and supportive. As the weeks rolled by the visits, phone calls etc
reduced and there is nothing put in place to help widows. I believe churches
really need this as not many people realize the pain widows go through and that
grieving takes time. I also noticed that some church people are uncomfortable
around widows and don't know what to say or do to help even when they want to.
So far I have not found any support group in any church.
There have only been a few people
in my church that have helped me over the nine years I have been a widow. My
children grew up seeing a lack of help for them and for me. I have even had to
BEG my church helping hands group for help when I really needed it and could not
afford to hire someone. My oldest son wants nothing to do with any church
because of that lack. I am alone now and so many things I know how to do but I'm
not strong enough to do. Many churches have their youth do a help work day once a
month.
Today I received a call from a
church that has a widows housing fund set up for me. It is a small church but
they said that the Lord had laid it in their hearts several years ago to help
widows of pastors/missionaries who didnt have a house. I don't know much of the
details only that they will pray and do what they can to raise the funds to
purchase a house for us. It is bittersweet, ladies. One of my desires was that
when my husband retired from the ministry, if the Lord willed, we would have a
place of our own. It looks like the Lord is blessing me with this desire. It
still hurts though, that I won't share this blessing with my love. I don’t
desire it like I used to, either. But I thank the Lord. He is working mightily
in me and my children’s lives.
This an area in my church that is
sadly overlooked. Most of the time I am left to myself, rarely does someone call
just to chit-chat.
I asked the head of Women's Ministry
at our denomination if they had widow support she said "No, only for
pastors/ministers widows." I thought my asking would ring a bell and they would
look into something, but nothing as yet.
My church was wonderful while my
husband was sick. They visited, gave us gifts of money, prayed with us, etc.
After my husband died, one of our pastors called once and left a message to call
him back. No other phone calls for about 8 months till someone realized I had
stopped going to church. I think they don't realize that after a horrible
illness, and then the death, you are all but immobilized. I couldn't make phone
calls to save my life! I still haven't been able to really reply to
them....
Well, dear reader, that's just a small sampling, but it demonstrates the vast differences between churches and between widows themselves. I hope to hear from you, too. Not to mount a case against your church, but rather to help our churches see if there is a problem, and some constructive and practical ways to solve it. I truly believe most churches and pastors are unaware of this gaping wound in their church because most widows hate to complain. While that's a virtue, it's also up to us to honestly and lovingly help bridge this gap, don't you think?
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It has been 4 years and 9 months since our pastor spoke at my husband's graveside. I haven't heard from him nor anyone from the church since that day. It is as if I died too.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing at my Church for Widows. There is Hope Ministers, and I finally got one into my second year of grieving. But other than that there is nothing for Widows. When I ask about it, they tell me, well there's the Singles Group. Really?!?!?! No Thank You.
ReplyDeleteThank you again, Ferree, for addressing such an important issue! Your post validates the need for widow-support and education in the churches on this topic. Many churches have singles groups, but widows need a deep sisterly love and support that are not addressed in such a general setting. S.E.
ReplyDeleteIt saddens me also that one of the main functions of the N.T. church is to help and alleviate widows. I'm not sure that scripture teaches anywhere for churches to fund a youth minister and entertain the youth and spend mega $$ on trips....etc.....and etc....
ReplyDeleteAs Mother Teresa once said "I can't help or feed a million, but I can help someone"
There was only one Elijah and that was all the poor widow and her son needed to help her during the time of famine.
So may we trust God that He will send us that (special) one, in our most desperate of situations. Robin
I have been widowed for 22 months now. I sold our home and moved to our planned retirement location. In doing so, I have lost my wonderful church family that we both loved so much. No local churches offer a consistent women's group/support group for socializing or grief support. I am just lost and alone...my sister is still working and really doesn't understand my grieving "for so long". I am still seeking groups/churches/friends.
ReplyDeleteThank you all for your insightful comments. Each one uncovers needs that get overlooked and forgotten. I think that's one of the hardest things about widowhood---feeling forgotten, and the reality of loneliness. Like the first comment stated---It is as if I died too.
ReplyDeleteTrudie highlights the loneliness that is caused by relocating---and this is a real problem too, as now the widow has not only lost her husband, but also her familiar home, her community, her friends, her church.... Trudie, I'd urge you to see if there's a GriefShare group nearby. Put your zipcode into the searchbox on their website for the nearest location. Also find out if any other Lifeboat members are in your area and maybe you could meet for lunch or coffee. And pray. Sometimes I feel kind of silly asking God for friends, but then I remember I can ask him to meet all my needs, and he does answer prayer. God loves you and will not fail. Here's the GriefShare website, and please let me know what you find, OK, Trudie? http://www.griefshare.org/
I found u whilst i was researching griefshare groups. Thank u for your response...I appreciate the contact and info. God blessings.
ReplyDeleteFerree, The issue of children involved really has to grieve God's heart. I think that they forget that so often when the baby is baptized/dedicated to the Lord, there is almost always a question to the congregation/membership to be a part of that contribution o raise the children in the admonition of the Lord...I don't see loopholes for this pledge that people take. Then they wonder why the kids have behavioral problems and the church is quicker than anyone to brush them off to secular counseling and I know that can be beneficial but I also know that if some men would step up to an outing of fishing, or an hour of catch and an ice cream cone, it would go much further than "counseling". I am tired of their excuses...they don't like to hear our needs or frustrations.... think we are just single women --- but not all single women are feminist!
ReplyDeleteI don't see loopholes either, dear Anonymous. You bring up some excellent points!
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